Clamorous Pedantry

I posted a comment on  Facebook in response to the announcement that the new Pope Francis was a wonderful chap who “accepted” gay priests: Apparently he asked rhetorically “Who am I to judge gay priests?”

Pope Francis: ‘Who am I to judge gay priests?’

Pope Francis’s compassionate comments about gay people, made following a visit to Brazil in which he was treated like a rock star by followers, are ‘enormous’ in their significance, says a Vatican expert..
My comment was that I will be impressed when -and only when- he “judges” paedophiles.  I added:
By the way: Americans please note there is an “a” in it. Otherwise you are talking about foot fetishists.
Some folks took the comment with good humour. 
  • Mickey Edmondson That too……………………………..

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  • Others did not.  I do enjoy an argument but one thing sure to push my button is an insult.  Thus the following exchange resulted.
    Chris Lenz Either spelling is correct for someone with an inappropriate sexual fascination with children. “Podophilia” is a foot fetish. Thanks for the unwarranted arrogance based on incorrect information, though.
  • Deanne Brown Thanks for the sense of humour (with a U) derailment.
  • Alan Freshwater Nice Trolling Chris, but the word is derived from the Greek and has an A. Only Americans leave it out. My comment about feet was in humour, based on the root common to such words as biped, pedal and similar foot related words. If humour is arrogance then you are on the wrong page.
  • Chris Lenz It isn’t a choice between “e” or “ae” it is spelled with an “o”. Pointing out your error doesn’t make me a troll, it just makes you wrong.πόδια
    pódia “feet” in Greek
  • Alan Freshwater Sorry Chris. I am just not used to being wrong. It is a bit of a shock. I had to check before I could be sure of myself again…The Latin root word ped was derived from the Greek root pod. Both mean “foot.” These roots are the word origin of many…See More
  • Gary Giever If you have a meaningful point, Chris, it is lost on me.
  • Alan Freshwater And I do not consider argument or pointing out an error to be trolling, but insulting is. Anyone who knows me will tell you I am not arrogant. Why I am a million times more humble than anyone else on the planet!
  • Larry Lem aluminium….duh……
  • Alan Freshwater Now Larry. Be nice. And don’t mention nukular and the innernet…
  • Alan Freshwater If nothing else I have learned something from the exchange!

    Æ (minuscule: æ) is a grapheme formed from the letters a and e. Originally a ligature representing a Latindiphthong, it has been promoted to the full status of a letter in the alphabets of some languages, including Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic and Faroese. As a letter of the Old English Latin alphab…
  • Alan Freshwater It does get interesting. I do love these learning experiences.Where did the “A” go?To demonstrate his independence, the first American lexicographer Noah Webster Jr. (October 16, 1758 – May 28, 1843) dropped the “a” from words derived from the Greek containing ae. He thought it unnecessary. He also removed the ‘e’ in judgement.
    He was clearly not a believer of the oft-wrong old adage that spelling determines pronunciation. It seems the A had no value other than etymological.

    Out of interest, it seems that Anti-English feeling was so strong at the time that even though English was the language spoken, Americans wanted to dissociate themselves from it. The State of Maine was so bitter about raids during the unpleasantness of 1812 that they stopped naming towns after English ones. Thus they have places such as China, Lisbon Falls, Norway, and Poland Springs.

    Wikipedia says:
    “(Webster’s) most important improvement, he claimed, was to rescue “our native tongue” from “the clamour[27] of pedantry” that surrounded English grammar and pronunciation. He complained that the English language had been corrupted by the British aristocracy, which set its own standard for proper spelling and pronunciation.[28] Webster rejected the notion that the study of Greek and Latin must precede the study of English grammar. The appropriate standard for the American language, argued Webster, was “the same republican principles as American civil and ecclesiastical constitutions”. This meant that the people-at-large must control the language; popular sovereignty in government must be accompanied by popular usage in language.

    So – I apologise for being a clamorous pedant!

About Uisce úr

Though I am old with wandering Through hollow lands and hilly lands, I will find out where she has gone, And kiss her lips and take her hands; And walk among long dappled grass, And pluck till time and times are done, The silver apples of the moon, The golden apples of the sun.
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2 Responses to Clamorous Pedantry

  1. Alan says:

    I should bloody well think so too!~


  2. Pilgrim33 says:

    As distant kin of the misguided Noah I apologise unreservedly and assure you all that when the colonials come crawling back to the mother lands for succour they will be required to revert to correct spelling before we accept their application.


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